3Squares Podcast

Providing deep analysis with a side of humor, the new podcast 3Squares features a trio of heavy hitters who dish up the latest food and retail industry news, trends, insights and commentary – and laugh along the way!

The bi-monthly podcast features Charlie Arnot, CEO of The Center for Food Integrity and president of Look East, Susan Schwallie, president, Food & Beverage Practice at the NPD Group, and Kevin Ryan, founder and CEO of Malachite Strategy and Research, a CPG, retail and foodservice-focused insights and innovation agency. All three are members of CFI’s Consumer Trust Insights Council.

By design, the podcast is like pulling up a chair to a candid conversation with three friends. With 70-plus years of combined experience in food, Charlie, Susan and Kevin tackle complex topics, interview interesting guests shaping the food industry, provide unique takes on the latest trends and have fun doing it.

Latest Episode Now Available:

It’s a very special episode of 3Squares as Mike Wolf of “The Spoon” and our own Kevin Ryan swap stories of eye-opening food and beverage innovation. And Charlie and Susan decide who wins Mr. Congeniality!

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Previous Episodes

Episode 8: Dr. Temple Grandin, legendary animal handling expert, best-selling author and autism advocate, joins 3Squares to discuss the evolution of animal handling and the need for diverse minds. Once named Time Magazine’s Most 100 Influential People in the world, Temple’s work in animal welfare and autism is unparalleled.

Episode 7: The Power of Entrepreneurship

The 3 Squares head to South Africa and talk with Miles Kubheka, the force behind the Vuyo’s brand and now founder of the Wakanda Food Accelerator. This inspiring story will give you some insight into what African food entrepreneurs can offer the world.

Episode 6: Food as Medicine

Will the grocery store become the new health care hub? What did the pandemic teach us about food? The 3 Squares dig into a discussion of food’s role in health and wellness with Krystal Register, a registered dietitian and lead of health and well-being initiatives for FMI, The Food Industry Association.

Episode 5: Craft Culture

The 3 Squares dig into craft culture with Kieran Folliard, who has created something special at Food Building.

Episode 4: Food Inflation
Want the real story about food inflation? Purdue University’s Head of Ag Economics Jayson Lusk breaks down what’s happening. Who’s to blame and when will it end!?

Episode 3: Creating value with your values: The startup story of A Dozen Cousins. 

The 3 Squares discuss the latest polling on consumer attitudes about trust and authenticity in making food choices and gain insight from startup A Dozen Cousins. Founder Ibraheem Basir talks about his journey developing a successful food brand built on authenticity, community and trust – including the role of DTC and traditional retail.

Episode 2: The Ballad of Chipotle and Chick-fil-A: How does food get served in a polarized society? 

The 3 Squares discuss the polarization of food. How does a deeply divided political environment affect our food choices, and is it possible to rise above the rancor and be palatable to everyone? We talk with John Dick, founder and CEO of Civic Science, one of today’s leading research and opinion polling companies, for more insight.

Episode 1: Was the disruption we experienced during the pandemic just a warmup for climate change?

Will Siberia be the next Midwest? What kinds of crops will be grown in the United States a generation from now? How can we make farmers the first responders in the climate crisis? What does this mean for global food markets? The 3 Squares talk with Jason Clay SVP/Markets and Executive Director of the Markets Institute at the World Wildlife Fund. And at the end of the show? That Baby Ruth isn’t what you think it is.